SBS-1 ETHERNET VERSION UPDATE

[DaveReid]

would it be possible to use a computer directly connected to the sbs to transmit the data over a wireless home network to another computer running the basestation?

In a word - no.

[sejo]

How about one of these??

http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?childpagename=US%2FLayout&packedargs=c%3DL_Product_C2%26cid%3D1114037289584&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper

No...this is a box that is specifically designed to act as a print server.

More likely a candidate would be this device, which appears to allow you to connect to a USB device over a wired TCP/IP network.

http://www.digi.com/products/usb/anywhereusb.jsp
(have a look at the product literature PDF files for more info)

There is a compatibility tool on the website that apparently checks if the device(s) you want to use are compatible. According to the output from the utility, the SBS-1 is compatible (it is a USB composite device).

If it does work, the next hurdle would be to then connect this bit of hardware to a wireless bridge if you wanted to be "cable free".

Personally I suspect this combination would run into problems, but maybe someone out there will try and find out otherwise!

When I first had my SBS-1 up in the loft with the magmount attenna, I simply put a "spare" old laptop I had up there too, which had a wireless PCMCIA card. From there I just used the XP remote desktop facility to remote into the laptop up there and this worked a treat for 4 months until I got round to fitting external aerial etc, and moving the SBS-1 box out of the loft.

Cheers,
Sean

[phoutman]

i'm a bit confused now (my fault i'm sure) - Dave Reid says not possible to control remotely but Sean uses laptop in loft to connect to another computer -

[sejo]

would it be possible to use a computer directly connected to the sbs to transmit the data over a wireless home network to another computer running the basestation?

In a word - no.

I think Dave's answer was probably correct to the question about transmitting "data".

In my setup, I do not transmit the USB data...I simply remotely control another computer which is directly attached to the SBS box.

There is a subtle but important difference, hence the confusion.

Hope this helps,
Sean

[aviaction]

The linksys usb adaptor was what I had in mind when I posted this a while ago.

http://www.kinetic-avionics.co.uk/forum ... =4654#4654



Note to kinetic.
Do you not feel these threads are getting fractured? I.E. similar postings about similar subjects, but on different threads??

[MikeC]

The linksys usb adaptor was what I had in mind when I posted this a while ago.

http://www.kinetic-avionics.co.uk/forum ... =4654#4654



Note to kinetic.
Do you not feel these threads are getting fractured? I.E. similar postings about similar subjects, but on different threads??

What I find disappointing is the lack of ANY comment from Kinetic on this subject, wherever the post is made on the Forum.

There was early evidence of a significant interest in the ethernet version of SBS-1. We were strung along for a few months before Kinetic eventually gave up. Lots of us have asked about a wireless option, but still silence.

I don't know the guys at Kinetic, but they have clearly come up with an interesting product. Sure they have a monopoly (today) but why risk upsetting would be and existing customers by ignoring their genuinely supportive questions?

C'mon, let's have more transparency.

MikeC

[stevenf]

I don't agree with you.

Kinetic did comment on the question 'When will the Ethernet be available' Kineticcomment was 'Don't know yet, will know shortly'

This says enough right? Kinetic just didn't know. What should Kinetic have said? If they would have said it would be about 2 month, then after 2 months everybody would be complaining that it's not available yet.

There where problems that could not be solved now, I believe it had to do something with the price for the Ethernet module. Maybe in the future but for now, no!

Anyway, I was also dissapointed that this version is not available. I had been waiting for it for months.

[MikeC]

I don't agree with you.

Kinetic did comment on the question 'When will the Ethernet be available' Kineticcomment was 'Don't know yet, will know shortly'

This says enough right? Kinetic just didn't know. What should Kinetic have said? If they would have said it would be about 2 month, then after 2 months everybody would be complaining that it's not available yet.

There where problems that could not be solved now, I believe it had to do something with the price for the Ethernet module. Maybe in the future but for now, no!

Anyway, I was also dissapointed that this version is not available. I had been waiting for it for months.

Let's not forget that Kinetic is a business, not a self-help group. For months the ethernet version was on its way. It clearly wasn't a technical issue, but pricing. At a price, an ethernet version could be available. My main complaint is that we were strung along and that Kinetic has totally ignored numerous posts asking for an opinion about wireless connectivity.

The fact that the website and brochure still refer to an ethernet version is misrepresentation and will not please potential customers who may not have read all the Forum posts on this subject.

I'm a businessman and the last thing I can afford to do is create a bad impression with my existing and potential customers and look unprofessional. I know everyone loves the SBS-1. I just thing Kinetic could be more informative on some of these topics.

MikeC

[DaveReid]

The fact that the website and brochure still refer to an ethernet version is misrepresentation and will not please potential customers who may not have read all the Forum posts on this subject.

I notice that the Product Specification http://www.kineticavionics.co.uk/SBS-1ProductSpec.pdf has now been amended to delete all reference to the Ethernet module but, as you rightly say, the brochure http://www.kineticavionics.co.uk/SBS-1brochure.pdf still makes mention of it. Presumably it will also be amended in the near future.

Personally, I'm more worried about the continuing delays to MapModeS. I hope that any unresolved issues are purely of a technical nature, but I have a nagging feeling that there could be other considerations (legal, security, etc) which may also have a bearing on MapModeS.

I hope I'm wrong.

Dave

[MikeC]

The fact that the website and brochure still refer to an ethernet version is misrepresentation and will not please potential customers who may not have read all the Forum posts on this subject.

I notice that the Product Specification http://www.kineticavionics.co.uk/SBS-1ProductSpec.pdf has now been amended to delete all reference to the Ethernet module but, as you rightly say, the brochure http://www.kineticavionics.co.uk/SBS-1brochure.pdf still makes mention of it. Presumably it will also be amended in the near future.
Dave

Unfortunately the current Home page - http://www.kinetic-avionics.co.uk/index.php - also makes a bold reference to the ethernet model. This doesn't instill me with confidence!

MikeC

[KineticWill]

Unfortunately the current Home page - http://www.kinetic-avionics.co.uk/index.php - also makes a bold reference to the ethernet model. This doesn't instill me with confidence!

I suspect that's just an oversight - but thanks for letting us know. I've passed it on to the relevent guys.

[ENIcommunications]

How about a "user upgradeable" option?

You make facility for a specific module to be installed and then the user installs it himself.

Perhaps the addition of a PCMCIA slot would allow the use of a bunch of different cards?

Or how about an extra USB port to allow the addition of a USB network card?

Or what about a miniPCI slot and a WiFi pigtail?

In each of these cases you would support a particular common chipset. Setup would initially be via USB to program things like IP addresses etc.

I'm sure this conversation has been had before but sometimes its worth rehashing things.

Mark

[sejo]

Mark,

What you are suggesting would require the SBS-1 to have the ability to load software drivers and suchlike like an operating system....in fact the SBS-1 box would pretty well be a PC by the time it had a PCMCIA or PCI slot in it.

Remember the SBS-1 box is a peripheral device and not a "Host" itself.

Cheers,
Sean

[ENIcommunications]

Mark,

What you are suggesting would require the SBS-1 to have the ability to load software drivers and suchlike like an operating system....in fact the SBS-1 box would pretty well be a PC by the time it had a PCMCIA or PCI slot in it.

Remember the SBS-1 box is a peripheral device and not a "Host" itself.

Cheers,
Sean

Not really. There thing has to have a micro processor for it to do what it does. There are many instances of uC's accessing things like network cards, hard disks etc. That's why one would only be allowed to use a given card or chipset.

On a slightly different tack, when is the "snoopy" version coming out? I read in the USB to Ethernet list that it will support client server (read that after I posted - duh!).

Mark

[threemiles]

Hi Mark,

look at this http://www.kineticavionics.co.uk/forums ... ght=inside

When you find something that is capable of running an OS like Linux to drive the stuff you mentioned, give me a hint.

regards
Andy